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ADSL LAN/USB connect? (13 posts)

Hello to all

Have a laptop/desktop home setup with Win2K.

Am using Alcatel ADSL modem with a USB and LAN port to connect to internet. USB to desktop and LAN to laptop. This works fine for internet but have no file sharing. Is there a way to do this? Or should I only use the USB to desktop and LAN cable to laptop?

Internet connection works very well with former setup and would like to work that one out.

Thankyou

Peter

Re: ADSL LAN/USB connect?

Peter, open a DOS prompt and type ipconfig and see if you have a different external IP address on each PC. If that's the case, expect your ISP to contact you soon about this as they don't like people using 2 public IP addresses when they are only meant to have one. Even if you're only using the same modem.

It sounds to me like you're using 2 public IP's. Therefore both PC's are using their own connection to the internet and therefore, by nature, you cannot run internal File Sharing as it would be the same thing as trying to enable File Sharing between your Home PC and a PC in the UK. There is no internal network.

If you're going to share your Internet connection, either get a router or get a 2nd NIC on one of the PC's and enable ICS. File sharing should then work fine.

Re: ADSL LAN/USB connect?

Is there any reason why you are not connecting both the desktop and the notebook via Ethernet (LAN) to the modem?

If you did it this way, you could set up a NAT (network address translation) at the ADSL Modem/Router. Your two machines would then be on a separate private address space (say 192.168.1.hh) and you could conncet them together using IP.

Re: ADSL LAN/USB connect?

I am unclear as to what you are asking.

You make mention of an old setup.

What old setup?

The type of device that you are referring to is not a hub if it has only one LAN connection port. Most probably, it has been provided as an uplink port which is used to connect other netorking devices like a swich.

If you want to have net and file sharing: configure file sharing just in a peer to peer sense and configure a proxy server on the PC with net access, such as INC.

Re: ADSL LAN/USB connect?

Nice to get your help. Below is the result from ifconfig on desktop. I have been connected to Internet only through ADSL modem's LAN port to my Laptop and same USB port to Desktop.

To get file sharing, which I could not do this way, I have dropped the LAN connection off the ADSL modem to onboard LAN connection on desktop MB. The cable I was using to connect the laptop and modem was a CAT 5 patch cable UTP. The one am now using is a CAT 5 4PR UTP which I have used before to successfully ICS and file share. Just in case this may help solve problem.

I also can't delete the LAN connection on either laptop or desktop. Both commands are greyed out. The following is from ipconfig at DOS prompt.

Windows 2000 IP Configuration
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix:
vic.bigpond.net.au
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Con. spec. DNS suffix
IP Address 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Def. Gateway

On LAPTOP
Eth. Adap. LAN Con.
Con.-Spec. DNS
Autoconfig IP address 169.254.47.147
Subnet 255.255.0.0
Def. Gateway

This is just a little complicated at moment. Can anyone interpret for me please?
Thankyou for your help.
Peter

Re: ADSL LAN/USB connect?

You should do this:

http://www.resnet.bristol.ac.uk/broadband/homenetwork.html

Re: ADSL LAN/USB connect?

This is a bit confusing but the ipconfig details should be enough to paint the picture:

1. Leave the Desktop PC as it is. It looks like you have already enabled ICS on it as your 2nd network device has been given the IP 192.168.0.1 I am assuming that your Internet connection is working fine on the Desktop.

2. Connect the Laptop to the Desktop. Do NOT connect it to the ADSL modem.

3. On the Laptop. 169.254.47.147 is an automatic configuration as the laptop doesn't know that there's a network. I'm not sure why it hasn't done it already by itself, but you want to change this. Open a DOS prompt and type:

ipconfig /renew

After you hit Enter, it may take a few moments, but it should then give you an IP address between 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.255. This is your new internal IP address and you should now be able to configure File Sharing between the Desktop and the PC.

The Subnet Mask will be displayed as 255.255.255.0 and the Default Gateway will be displayed as 192.168.0.1.

Hope that helps.

TIP: Next time, just type x's instead of your actual public IP

Re: ADSL LAN/USB connect?

Your problem lies in your IP config setting.

The laptop has a dymanically generated address provided by windows default DHCP service. You should give your laptop an IP address based on your 192. Network with your default gateway, then this will be part of your private network. You should be able to see both your PC's file sharing. Then configure INC to brige your 2 nics and you are away.

If you are configurating XP as primary access for internet, disable the default filewall because it will block all traffic and you won't access the net. Download a third party firewall. Search Kerio Personal Firewall.

Re: ADSL LAN/USB connect?

Daniel I am getting DHCP server unreachable.
I can get a bit of what Taner is saying in next response, but not sure of INC (NIC's?-ed) etc.
Thanks

Re: ADSL LAN/USB connect?

Peter,

It means that your Laptop can't see the Desktop. How are you connecting them together? Are you using a normal Cat5 cable? What colour is it?

blue = straight through. You should use this if you have a switch in-between.

yellow = crossover. You should use this if you do not have a switch in between.

i.e. If you only have a Cat5 cable between the 2 network cards on both PC's, then make sure it's a crossover cable.

Also, are you running a firewall on the Desktop? If so, try disabling it for a minute (you might want to disconnect from the Internet before you do this) and then try again with ipconfig / renew on the laptop and see if the problem is the firewall.

Win2K is the best OS you can run for this kind of stuff. I'm sure that once you sort it out it will work flawlessly. I have found it to be a lot more responsive and customizable (port fowarding is more flexible) than XP when it comes to networking.

Hope that helps.

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